The academic record, conjugated to a specific professional experience and targeted, made of Fatima Gottshalg a specialist in interpretation and intervention of scenarios involving the poorest layer of the brazilian population. Fatima Gottshalg is a social worker, Ph.d. in social sciences and master of Geography in the area of socio-spatial segregation (precarious settlements, villages and slums). Specialized in projects related to solid waste management and urban policy of social interest housing and solid wastes, including the Integrated management plan, established in the Brazilian solid waste Policy (PNRS).
Garbage's blog – what you do between the Brazilian solid waste Policy and the social inclusion of the pickers of recyclable materials?
Fatima Gottshalg-solid waste management goes beyond the urban cleaning and environmental preservation, covers the issues of social inclusion and promoting citizenship. The social grooming is a source of employment and income generation for many who have no formal qualification. So, need to be addressed under the social perspective, considering the inclusion of collectors organized in cooperatives and associations. If there is no separate collection and reverse logistics, you lose the opportunity to promote the social inclusion of thousands of families living in poverty.
On the other hand, the action of scavengers in the process is what guarantees the success of the Brazilian solid waste Policy, because they act on selective collection, sorting, rating, processing and marketing of the recyclable waste. Their work is critical to reducing the volume of waste sent for disposal and to inadequate grounding, in order to reduce the negative impacts caused to the environment by garbage.
Garbage's blog – the PNRS provides a shared management of solid waste, this is happening?
Fatima Gottshalg-shared management happens when you have a discussion with the society, partnership with reverse logistics supply chain and with other sectors of urban cleaning, for example, the municipal councils and forums designed to help in this joint. In Belo Horizonte, we have the Municipal Garbage and citizenship Forum, which encourages the selective collection, the integration of collectors with the public power and the value of collector's category of recyclable material. Is also being developed in the city of Belo Horizonte, the Integrated Plan of municipal solid waste, following a determination of national policy. In this, civil society participation, although timidly and only advisory character.
Blog of garbage-How is that dialogue with the pickers of recyclable materials?
Fatima Gottshalg-dialogue happens by means of cooperatives and associations, then at the level of networks. The goal is to strengthen organizations of collectors, giving them the skills necessary to conduct negotiations in the recycling chain.
There is a good understanding and articulation of demands of strengthening of cooperative networks. But there's still a little bug on the part of municipal representatives to adopt the measures mentioned in the participatory management plans developed by the networks, with the incentives of the Cataforte program.
Garbage's blog-what is Cataforte?
Fatima Gottshalg-the Cataforte is a Federal Government program which involves various partners, government institutions, to strengthen the networks of cooperatives of collectors, through capacity building for the management and entrepreneurship. At the same time, give voice to the collectors, to be recognized as professionals in the network of recycling. The Cataforte is in its third edition. The first guided the legal structure of enterprises in the social economy; the second sought funds for equipment; the third follows the planning and execution of management (participatory management, business plan, plan, plan of logistics and engineering projects), strengthening self-management of networks of collectors.
Garbage's blog – You acted on participatory plans for cooperatives of collectors. This management model is giving results?
Fatima Gottshalg – Worked in the planning of Redesol, a network of cooperatives that comprise 14 enterprises, located in the metropolitan region of Belo Horizonte (RMBH). The elaborate plans for the Redesol, under the Cataforte, have been and are being constructed so as participatory, directly with the pickers, from demands for they identified. I understand that they need to strengthen itself internally and also externally as a group, seeking to reduce the situation of social fragility, and increase their autonomy in the recycling chain. The participatory planning stimulates the involvement of members in the analysis and in the responsibility to make sure what was conceived.
Blog of rubbish – what are the biggest challenges for co-operatives.
Fatima Gottshalg-there are many immediate demands that need support of public power: sorting shed, equipment and supplies for work, since the amount of recyclable material to be processed depends on the expansion of municipal waste collection. It's going to take resources to implement the actions. The fear is the difficulty to get up these features, on the economic crisis experienced by the country. The resources need to be triggered by the Federal Government and other public partners. This is a major investment, high social and environmental weight, which cannot be forgotten amid the current political clash, which appear positive results of Government actions. I give as an example the solidarity economy-building programs, where the Cataforte fit.
Blog of garbage – and on the reverse logistics, what is the situation?
Fatima Gottshalg-The sector agreements to the completion of the reverse logistics are still walking, and that's an important bias to a shared responsibility. The reverse logistics system promotes partnerships between cooperatives of collectors and the generators, in addition to strengthening the post-consumption responsibility programs that deal with the collection and proper disposal of waste.
You have to highlight the serious issue of inadequate grounding of waste dumps and the large volume of recyclable material that is grounded by the lack of separate collection. The eradication of landfills is still a challenge, the equipment and processes are complex and expensive, because they involve the provision of areas for the construction of landfills and sorting of recyclable materials and waste. And, as you all know, the urban land is increasingly reduced and man, if there's no room for housing, imagine the trash!
Garbage's blog – the company shows interest in doing their part in the matter, but be aware that reducing consumption is more important than Recycle?
Fatima Gottshalg-we must stimulate consumer awareness to say no. We have a consumer society that does not care about the impact of their consumption. Need to broaden understanding about what is consumed, the waste that is generated from this consumption and the responsibility of the generator on its own trash. You have mistaken the meaning of the 3 Rs: reduce, reuse, recycle. Recycle comes last, you can't think that separate the garbage and put it in the truck to collect is fine, we did our part. The productive chain of the garbage is complex, Recycle is the alternative to what has already been disposed, we must reduce to discard less.
Fatima Gottschalg at the team planning meeting Redesol-MG (Central Cooperative Solidarity Network of workers of recyclable materials of MG)